The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast

The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast Episode 008

Annihilation: Silver Surfer (2006)

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Face Front, True Believers! We’re back to lean, mean fighting form with our latest episode! Following our looks at Marvel Cosmic and Drax the Destroyer: Earthfall, we’re ready to attack the epic Annihilation story arc of 2006 in earnest. The seeds for Guardians of the Galaxy were planted by this exciting event! Episode art tumblr here.

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14 thoughts on “The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast Episode 008”

  1. Man. What a rebound after the Ka-Zar episode. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy Ka-Zar a good deal, but I think that episode was “too much of a good thing.” This one, however, even though I assume recorded earlier than the Ka-Zar episode, brings it back. It may have been due to the absence of Mac and Fixit to beak up the tone of the delivery. Don’t know, but I listened to it twice. This prologue episode was great. It was entertaining and informational, albeit a bit short. I know that comes with the territory if of having a miniseries for subject matter, but still loads of fun.


  2. I’m proud of the Guardians episode, but I’m also a big believer in lowering expectations, so we chased our best episode with our worst. It establishes a nice sustainable baseline of minimum mediocrity going forward. Episode 6 was mostly about finding our basement level and acknowledging my/our limitations. Part of that is sticking to shows in the 30-45 minute range, so that we can maintain enthusiasm and energy to produce a better show instead of a more indulgent one. Honestly, there are so many good podcasts out there, we figure folks’ listening time is at a premium, and don’t want to overstay our welcome so that we can keep showing up each week to friendly smiles.

    It was my idea to throw in the Ka-Zar and Masked Raider segments as connective tissue between reading and responding to letters of comment, but I couldn’t fake true interest in either, and I just made an already overlong episode more of a chore to get through. I haven’t even managed to get through one full listen in a single sitting, usually a prerequisite for posting. However, I maintain it also functions as a surprisingly effective sleep aid without involving chemicals or negative habit formation. My girlfriend just says “put on #6” and nods right out.

    Week after next, the Super-Skrull episode will stream out, representing the last of the Annihilation material from our earliest recording sessions. Next week’s Iron Man episode is of a more recent vintage, and then the only thing left over from months ago is an upcoming Frankenstein’s Monster of a Hulk episode with snippets taken from numerous old sessions and then stuff we haven’t recorded yet. I recorded a two-parter with Mac before I went off on vacation, and we’ll be all-new/less clumsy from there.

    Thanks for the support, and glad that we’re putting #6 further in the rear view mirror…


  3. Another great show, guys.

    I always thought Silver Surfer has an awesome look, but I could never connect with the character until I read reprints of his first appearances in Fantastic Four and finally understood that he’s the Angel of Death trying to find redemption by forming human connections.

    Unlike the other Annihilation prologue books you’ve reviewed, I find I have zero memory of the Silver Surfer mini. I sort of remembered Drax, I remembered Ronan, and I remember parts of Nova and Super-Skrull, but Silver Surfer’s issues were just a blank in my mind. Thanks for recapping.


  4. Howdy, Count! The train has wifi, so I’m quite happy to have a comment waiting for me once I could reconnect! I hope that we’ll get around to some of the early Silver Surfer appearances to see if they connect more, but no idea when that might happen. As far as I know, the Surfer decouples from Annihilation/Guardians after the first mini-series resolves, and we’re more likely to go back fifty issues on Fantastic Four to check on the seminal tales than to meet up with him in the late ’60s. I’ll keep your thoughts in mind to see if that helps me find an “in” down the line, though.

    I’m pretty sure at least I’ll have to reread Ronan, but Nova and Annihilation stuck in my brain enough to do new recording from memory and a quick toss.

    Jeez, now I get how Eternal Rage feels. Already out of comments and I just got back here!


  5. You want more comments? Hmm… Okay.

    We should have more team books with Spider-Man and Wolverine.

    Also, I might appreciate Venom better today if Carnage didn’t ruin him.

    Also, um, said this before but I’ll say it again. The post-credits stinger for Guardians of the Galaxy should have been a preview of Avengers: Age of Ultron similar to the SDCC coverage, and how the stinger of Captain America: The First Avenger was just a preview for The Avengers. The Howard the Duck cameo made me angry; if they wanted to use that gag, it could have been tossed into the middle of the movie after the battle at Big Head Planet Thing. I didn’t find it cute or funny because the old Howard the Duck movie was so horrible, and because when the heart and soul of your movie are a talking raccoon and a walking tree, there is nothing special about Howard the Duck.

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  6. Woof, I’m sensing some foul anti-fowl sentiment here! Aside from Thanos, Guardians were allowed to be their own thing, and I’m glad there wasn’t anything else Avengery in there.

    If you’re serious about us talking Spider-Man, we’re going to have to rope in a guest.


  7. Okay, keeping it cosmic since you all seem to be fans… Any speculation on who might be the villain of Guardians of the Galaxy 2: Electric Boogaloo? The director as much as said Thanos won’t be the big bad, and as far as I know Marvel can’t use the Skrulls, the Badoon, the Shi’ar, Annihilus or the Phalanx. Who’s left?


  8. Is say calling us “Cosmic fans” is a bit strong. More like Starlin fans. Besides that we aren’t particularly well versed.

    As for GOTG2 villian….why not Annihilus (or does FF own him?)?


  9. I’ve only read some of the Essentials volumes and have seen the Silver Surfer cartoon from the 90’s, but I always thought the Silver Surfer was an interesting character who embodies a lot of big existential ideas with a twist of Shakespearean pathos. He’s an interesting contrast between power and powerlessness: all this cosmic power is his to command, and yet he’s denied so much in his life. In addition to all that, he strikes me as sort of a pacifist, which is territory I wish more comics delved into. I haven’t read Annhilation, so maybe he does tread too far into “bleeding heart wuss” territory.

    Thanks for the crash course in Marvel Cosmology 101. It’s a lot to make sense of, and the new Marvel reader in me laments that comics are sometimes just so complex as to be downright overwhelming. (Which is why stories that don’t rely on tons of continuity are always refreshing.)

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  10. Oh, and I had to some by and second (third?) Count Drunkula’s opinion of the after-credits GoTG scene. That was such a wasted opportunity, and it stalled the forward momentum that Marvel Studios has been steadily building. I’m wondering if there was originally supposed to be an Ant-Man lead in that was perhaps scrapped because of the change of directors…?

    And thanks for reading my GoTG comments!


  11. Count, aside from Ronan, we haven’t seen much Kree, and fascists seem a natural foil for the Guardians.

    Liss, I’m glad Cosmology 101 was helpful! Refreshing thoughts on the Silver Surfer as well!


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