The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast

The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast Episode 013

The Origin of the Incredible Hulk

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Fantasy as you like it! The strangest man of all time!! Is he Man or Monster or… is he both? It’s “The Coming of the Hulk” as we look at The Incredible Hulk #1 (May 1962,) its faithful adaptation on the 1966 The Marvel Super Heroes animated series, plus the 1982 and 1996 takes from two separate series of The Incredible Hulk cartoons. Added value bonus at no additional cost to our treasured listeners: Hulk related commentary, anecdotes, and tunes as part of our biggest show yet! This is the last early episode length audio recorded using the Graphophone system onto cardboard tubes covered in wax as overseen by Alexander Graham Bell himself, so please excuse the low audio quality, awkward chemistry, jokes that miss like a troop run by Major Glenn Talbot, excess of needless recapping rather than essential commentary, and Frank hogging too much of the narration.

Note: We like our language NSFW salty, and there be spoilers here…

  • 00:52 Why the Hulk? Fixit, Mac and Frank talk about getting started with the Green Goliath, with emphasis on the run of Peter David and his all-star artists.
  • 06:17 “The Coming of the Hulk,” our anti-hero’s first ever comic book story and cartoon, adapted as “The Origin of the Hulk.”
  • 16:50 The 1982 animated episode, also called “Origin of the Hulk.”
  • 25:59 1996’s cartoon take, a portion of the two-part episode “Return of the Beast.”
  • 34:14 Illegal Machine shares his thoughts on the role of the Hulk in the Marvel Universe and his relatively slim relationship with the character’s solo adventures.
  • 38:13 The 1978–1982 live action Hulk TV series’ legacy is compared to other super-heroic greats of television, such as Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman.
  • 47:14 The Marvel Mail Bag is packed to the gills with commentary on episodes #9-12!
  • 1:08:46 The end of the episode. No, really. You hear the 1986 Marvel Productions LTD closing credit music, and that’s it. Just like always.

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7 thoughts on “The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast Episode 013”

  1. Really enjoyed the Hulk episode. I base my appreciation of a podcast on a number of things all of which you guys did very well!

    The 3 of you as hosts were engaged , knowledgable, and fun to listen to! Great synergy and knowledge of the Hulk topic! You guys dug into details and as a listener I appreciated that! The comparisons between originsof all series of Hulk cartoons was on the money.

    Appreciated the shout out as well!

    Thanks guys. Great work. Ill keep listening!



  2. Another great show. I laugh out loud often as you guys banter back and forth and discuss how ridiculous some things are (Gremlin blowing himself up on a cartoon, Rick Jones horrible characterization on the shows). It reminds me so much of conversations I have with my comic friends.

    As for the Hulk, this is a huge gap in my comic knowledge and collection. Looking at my database, I only have a handful of Hulk comics and all in the ‘Who is the Red Hulk?’ first year of Loeb/McGuinness. Why did I even buy that?? Of course, there a couple of issues where the art is a split of Art Adams and Frank Cho. At least those are worth the price. I just could never get into the ‘unthinking monster’ part of him as a main character. Where do you go with that? And somehow 12 years of Peter David (a guy whose Supergirl, Capt Marvel, and XFactor I love) just came and went without me noticing.

    One last comment on the Iron Man issue and the ‘deus ex machina’ cryo-grenade. If he had them on the suit and could throw them, I would have no problem. But this was a spring-loaded tiny thing in his shoulder which he fired while his hands were being held. It could only be used on something close up … it’s spring-loaded, not rocket propelled. And he would most likely be caught in the blast except he fired it into the Dreadnaught’s mouth. That seems a little too contrived.

    Of course, I didn’t collect a Iron Man for decades because of one panel of him using a weapon against a robot. So maybe this *is* my problem.

    If looking for other Fraction stuff to read, I highly highly recommend his Iron Fist (co-written by Ed Brubaker with Steranko-like art by David Aja). They really explore the lineage of all the Iron Fists. Fraction’s Casanova, an indy from Image, is also a mega-trippy book.

    Thanks again for great show.

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  3. Thanks so much (again). We’re not always engaged and not always knowledgeable, but we don’t claim to be either! We do have our strong suites.

    Frank’s the knowledge database. His comic (and comic industry) has always amazed us.


  4. Same here, Anj. I just never felt compelled to buy the book, even though I knew about Peter David’s acclaimed run. It’s weird.


    Fraction/Aja sounds interesting, indeed!



  5. Thanks for the kind words, Charlton Hero! Glad you enjoyed the show!

    Anj, we were all a little worried about how well this older recording would hold up, but whatever awkwardness remained in the recording process, we still had almost 20 years of buddyhood to fall back on.

    I can totally forgive buying a book for Ed McGuinness, much less Art Adams and Frank Cho. I could and have overlooked Jeph Loebiness for less. Also, the David/Keown combo hit me at just the right time, a fantastic creative pairing at a time when I was still dependent on slim convenience store comic racks and fed up with X-titles. I doubt anything before or after that time would have swayed me from my ingrained Hulk prejudice, but I was so swayed for six years of monthly purchases. My jump-off point might also explain why we all neglected to mention Adam Kubert among the other a-list artists to have joined PAD on the title.

    Matt Fraction is one of Marvel’s “architects” (are they still using that marketing term for their more prolific writers) so it seems likely that if we cover any contemporary series in the near future, we’ll cross his path. However, the newest books we’ve handled on the show are eight years old, and most of our coverage has been Silver/Bronze Age, so it may take some time to get to that material. Then again, if we were to do anything with Iron Fist, I’d rather it be Fraction/Aja than anything else in his solo career.


  6. I got into the Hulk from watching reruns of the Bill Bixby television series and he’s been one of my favorite Marvel heroes ever since. In fact, the Hulk and Captain America frequently vie for the number three spot on my Top Whatever list of Marvel Superheroes, and switch places from day-to-day or week-to-week.

    The first Hulk comics I read were in the early/mid ’90s. I distinctly remember my mom buying a copy of INCREDIBLE HULK #420 (I think) for me because it had the red AIDS Awareness ribbon on the cover and it was supposed to be an “important comic”.

    I’m surprised Peter David’s run on INCREDIBLE HULK hasn’t gotten the hardcover omnibus treatment yet. I would think Marvel would at least try to push an overpriced oversized collection of the McFarlane issues, even though those are probably my least favorite part of David’s whole tenure.

    I enjoy older Hulk comics from the Herb Trimpe era. I love most of Peter David’s extended run. But I think my favorite Hulk comics are actually the Bruce Jones era from the early 2000s. They weren’t perfect; they weren’t even all good necessarily, but I liked the moodier horror tone of the series at that time.


  7. I freaking LOVED the 80s Hulk cartoon, and it made a great double feature with Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends. The theme tune brought me right back, and I schizophrenic-like, I often hear that computer voice (is it in the first episode?) that detects the Green Goliath and goes “The Hulk. The Hulk. The Hulk…”

    Live action superheroes are iconic and nostalgia-important as Batman 66 and Incredible Hulk? I think Lois & Clark is maybe the only other “crossover” or “mainstream” hit that might register. But nowhere near as much as those two. No way. Can’t remember the theme tune, for example. Spidey Super Stories segments in The Electric Company might be able to make a claim, but for other reasons. If we’re talking animation, then the old Spider-Man show, Amazing Friends (maybe), Super-Friends and the Batman Animated Series would be the ones most people would come up with.

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