The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast

The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast Episode 065

Marvel Studios Doctor Strange (2016)

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Face Front, True Believer! By the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth, the first ever Master of the Mystic Arts motion picture is finally here! Illegal Machine, Mister Fixit & Diabolu Frank dispell the Vapors of Valtorr to discuss the Scott Derrickson feature film featuring Benedict Cumberbatch, Tilda Swinton, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Rachel McAdams & Mads Mikkelsen! Plus, the teaser trailer of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, more Thor: Ragnarok talk, and some discussion of future events in the Rolled Spine Podcasting Universe! Excelsior!

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2 thoughts on “The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast Episode 065”

  1. I saw the movie in 2D and, like you guys, I want to make the effort to see it again in IMAX 3D.

    Overall, I enjoyed the film a lot. It’s not my favorite Marvel movie, but it’s not at the bottom of the list either; it’s in the middle. I also agree that the first act of the film was probably the weakest, with the film not having the courage to make Stephen a genuine asshole. I also got a really bad feeling from the opening fight with the Ancient One and Kaecilius’ disciples. But, also as you pointed out, after the car crash the movie really picked up.

    I had one nagging problem that wasn’t a real problem with the movie at all, but it pulled me out of the film because of my knowledge of the comics. Kaecilius should have been called Mordo because that was the character he was playing. Chiwetel Ejiofor’s character was something completely different–and it was, indeed, interesting, but he should have had a completely different name because he was an original character.

    OR… Mordo and Wong should’ve been combined into one character (named Wong) because there wasn’t enough for both of them to do. Since the movie left no indication that Wong would be functioning as Strange’s manservant in the sequel–and since that’s kind a tired and potentially racist stereotype anyway–it would be a lot more interesting to turn Wong into the fallen ally who decides to hunt and kill magic-users in the future.

    I think Tilda Swinton gave the most enjoyable performance, but I still think “whitewashing” the Ancient One should’ve been avoided. Chiwetel Ejiofor’s talent was wasted on Mordo; he could’ve been an amazing Ancient One. On the other hand, I did like the gender-swapping of the character, so maybe Marvel could have cast an older Asian actress like Michelle Yeoh. And despite liking Benedict Cumberbatch, I don’t think his performance was as solid or memorable as some of the other leading men in Marvel movies. In fact, Mads Mikkelsen would’ve been a more captivating (and ever-so-slightly less WASPy) Doctor Strange. Ultimately, even though I love the cast members in isolation, I felt like there were five great actors for four parts, and they could’ve mixed them around a little.

    One other issue was the use of magic, or rather, the lack to creepy/weird magic stuff, as well as the lack of humor. The film needed a few comedic bits during the training/studying montage where Stephen cast spells that didn’t work. Basically, think back to the first IRON MAN where Tony was building the boot jets that slammed him into the system. We should’ve got a scene with Stephen making a hand gesture and uttering an incantation, and then a portal opens and the tentacles of Shuma-Gorath spring out and start pulling him in, slamming him to the floor, and Wong/Mordo has to come and help him. This scene would be used for humor, and show a little bit of the weirdness that magic can achieve. Another similar bit could be used with Stephen casting a minor spell that unleashes a demon spider or something that has to be contained.

    Then these bits can be paid off during the final battle when Stephen is fighting Kaecilius’ disciples in Hong Kong. During the running battle, he opens that portal again and the tentacles reach out and grab one of the bad guys and drag him/her off screaming to some other dimension.

    Anyway, despite some problems I liked the movie. I’m excited to see more of the character in Avengers 3 and the inevitable sequel. Great episode! And good on Fixit for catching the bad guys turning into the Mindless Ones at the end.

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  2. Haven’t commented in a while, because I’m super-late on my podcast listening, but I just saw Dr Strange so it made sense to start catching up here.

    Frank didn’t rip it to shreds, which is the real surprise, but I’m on your wavelength. While Marvel Cinematic usually puts in a solid effort, the formulaic nature of superhero origin stories is starting to get to me. Dr Strange is very much a magical Iron Man, and I don’t just mean the movie – it’s true of the comics too! maybe I’ve hit my saturation level on these films. I like them, like discovering Easter Eggs, but I’m no longer really excited by them or surprised by them (linked). It’s a fun lark at the theater, and there’s really nothing wrong with that, and maybe it’s enough.

    With Frank on Mordo, I think we may finally have a second good Marvel villain (after Loki), because they’re allowing us to invest in him.

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